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Unique Procedures, Penalties, and Prizes
Q & A: Week 9
11/5/15

Last Week’s Question: Should commissioners turn a blind eye to tradebacks?

Phil’s question about tradebacks received more feedback than I can possibly squeeze into one column. Those who wrote in almost unanimously decried tradebacks as a form of collusion. However, there was one reader (Eric) who attempted to defend the practice:

So the reason you think tradebacks is bad is because of collusion? I view collusion to be when two owners conspire to make one team better at the detriment of their own team. Tradebacks is simply two owners showing foresight to help their own team. They do this by helping another team out as well. That's the definition of a trade. So I don't see how tradebacks are a bad thing.

I'm in a league where getting people to trade is usually hard, so if someone had the initiative and foresight to pull this off - good for them!


For those who define collusion as a process whereby one team is ALWAYS AND ONLY strengthened at the expense of its trading partner, Eric’s argument may seem compelling. However, I heard from several folks who dismiss this argument because they see collusion as any activity that gives certain teams an unfair advantage over other teams in the same league.

Derek does a good job of condensing the argument against tradebacks made by numerous commissioners:

Part of the rules that everyone agrees to at the beginning of the season is roster makeup and bench size. In my league everyone has a 7-man bench. When a “tradeback” occurs, this rule is indirectly violated. Instead of 2 teams with their own 7-man benches, you have 2 teams sharing a 14-man bench. There is a significant competitive advantage for these two teams, primarily due to a player pool twice the size of every other owner which they can use to compensate for positional disadvantages and multiple waiver priorities. . . . I do not think tradebacks are fair.

Mark echoed Derek’s sentiments:

I had a pair of brothers who were trading players back and forth. As commish, I said no more tradebacks [because b]eing able to use another team's bench as a part of your bench is unfair to the rest of the league. Everyone else in the league agreed. The brothers did not and are no longer in the league.

Maybe one of the brothers was named Eric. In any case, for Craig, tradebacks simply don’t pass the smell test:

[Attorneys must] practice law in such a manner as to avoid the appearance of impropriety. Whether or not the attorney, or his or her client, is doing anything improper, the question is both deeper and simpler than that: Does the action (or in this case the transaction) pass the smell test. If not, the action or transaction isn’t permitted. I think the same applies to tradebacks. Every team owner knows (or believes) collusion has occurred in order to dig one or both of those team owners out of a rut at the expense of the remaining owners in the league. Tradebacks, as outlined in the Week 8 Q&A, should not be permitted.

Think: would it be allowed, or would it occur in the NFL? No? Why? Because the NFL would want to avoid the appearance of impropriety just as we do in our league.


Instead of focusing on the many ways in which readers argued that tradebacks are wrong, I think the most helpful thing for me to do is to share the steps commissioners have taken in various leagues to combat this form of bad sportsmanship (whether we categorize it as collusion or not). Craig continued his note by quoting a rule from his league:

No tradebacks, i.e., Player X for Player Y without a minimum of 4 weeks passing since the original trade, or in the alternative, no tradebacks unless the trade is a small part of a bigger package deal.

For example, I trade you my wide receiver (Calvin Johnson) for your running back (Eddy Lacy); three weeks later my top two receivers go down with injuries while at the same time my depth at running back and tight end has unexpectedly improved (think Giovanni Bernard and Eric Ebron), so I offer you Ebron, Lacy, & Dez Bryant for C Johnson, Austin Seferian-Jenkins, & Ameer Abdullah.


Dan’s league has a similar rule and perhaps a better name (“loaner trade”) for the phenomenon:

Loaner trades are not allowed. The definition of a loaner trade is where two teams swap players, generally to fill a bye week need, and then swap the players back once the need has been met. This has the result of allowing teams to avoid having to drop players to find bye week replacements. Therefore, no player may be traded from one team to another and back again between the two teams without four football weeks passing. As an example, if a trade is made during Week 5, the player[s involved] cannot be traded back until Week 9 has completed. This will mean that four weeks (Week 6, Week7, Week 8, and Week 9) have passed.

So basically, if anyone wanted to collude and then claim a change of heart they would have to survive without their players for 5 weeks (the week of the trade plus 4 additional weeks). Apparently, this has been enough of a deterrent as we have not seen a trade like this attempted since we adopted the rule above about 8 years ago.

The idea of permitting players to be traded back to their original owners after several weeks came up over and over again, as in this response from Brigsy:

Traded players are not eligible to return to their original teams for a period of five weeks after the initial trade.

We absolutely see exchanging players for a week or two as collusion and instituted rules (on which we vote) to preclude this.


If you think a short-term ban is insufficient, consider a rule adopted by George’s league:

If you trade a player off of your team, you cannot reacquire that player through trade from any other team in the league for the duration of the season. You may pick up that player in free agency, but you cannot trade for him in any part of a deal - even if different players or a number of players are involved.

This has successfully ended colluding in our league (which became a problem just from a few owners) and the wording "any other team" prevents 3 or more teams from finding a loophole to collude together. Also, we felt it was fair that if a player was dropped and everyone had a chance to pick him up, then the original owner could add him again.


For those who like simplicity, it’s hard to improve on a formulation that came from Eric’s league (a different Eric than the one quoted at the beginning of this section):

2 teams cannot conduct trades including any player(s) that were previously involved in a trade between those teams.

This eliminates any grey area where the commish has to make a judgment call. I've been commish of our league for the last 5 years and I've systematically proposed rules that remove subjective calls in favor of black-and-white rules.

If tradebacks are a problem in your league, you might want to consider implementing a new rule modeled on any of these responses, as they all appear to be working as intended. As usual, my thanks go out to everyone who wrote in. I’m sorry I don’t have the space to engage all of the responses I received in greater detail.

This Week’s Question: Does your league have unique procedures, penalties or prizes?

One of the more enjoyable topics we revisit from time to time in this column is the downright goofiness of certain league traditions. A reader named Jason, who thought it might be time for another such discussion, sent me a note explaining some of the things that make his league wacky and unique, such as this wrinkle:

We have a very competitive and active 12-player PPR league comprised of 30- and 40-somethings. Catered live draft, dedicated forum, hilarious 3-foot trophy of a Greek god with a nerf football duct taped to his hand, etc.

The winner of the league has been granted the power to create a new 'rule' for the following season. (Approved at the draft via vote.)


We’ll take a look at some weirdness from Jason’s league next week, but I hope to hear from other leagues with odd procedures, penalties, and prizes as well—especially from readers who haven’t contributed answers to questions such as this one in past seasons.


Survivor Pool Picks - Week 9 (Courtesy of Matthew Schiff)

Trap Game: Cleveland at Cincinnati

Can you hear that sound? It’s the racket from one of the original battles of the AFC Central . . . I mean North. I’m talking about the battle of Ohio . . . Kosar vs. Esiason . . . the dawg pound vs. the big cats. Admittedly, in 2015, this matchup has lost some of its luster, but there’s too much fight in these Browns for them to roll over the way they did in Johnny Manziel’s debut as a starter. Don’t get me wrong. I have tons of respect and admiration for Andy Dalton and his crew. But this game gives me pause for 3 reasons: 1) the Cleveland defense is better than most people think; 2) Manziel has a chip on his shoulder, and his presence makes the Cleveland offense less predictable for the Bengals than anything their film study will have prepared them for; and 3) Andy Dalton looked almost as bad as Manziel the last time he played against the Browns on a Thursday night. If these QBs end up competing in the suckage department, this game could come down to a funky bounce. Find a better alternative.

Peyton Manning
Image by Tilt Creative (Ty Schiff)

#3: Denver over Indianapolis (4-4, Cin, Phi, AZ, ATL, KC, SEA, SD, NE)

Everyone knows about the back story of Peyton returning to his old home, where the torch has long since been passed to Andrew Luck. Luck has struggled this year behind a shaky offensive line and has taken responsibility for the offense’s inability to move the ball. Manning hasn’t had to assume that kind of responsibility for Denver’s offensive woes because the defense has been winning games for him, but he plainly misses Julius Thomas as a red zone target. Enter Vernon Davis, the former 49er tight end who seems to be exactly the sort of big, sure-handed target to whom Manning can turn for scores once Demaryius Thomas and Emanuel Sanders have gotten the ball downfield. We would love to pick the home team for sentimental reasons, but Denver’s #1 defense and last-minute TE acquisition make the Broncos seem like more than the Colts can handle, no matter how many offensive coordinators they fire between now and kickoff.

#2: Atlanta over San Francisco (7-1, GB, Balt, NE, SEA, NYG, MIN, AZ, STL)

If benchings happened in a vacuum, then the decision to sit Colin Kaepernick would probably make sense to anyone who has witnessed the decline of his productivity. Unfortunately, the decision to bench Kaepernick doesn’t simply mean that he won’t play; it means that someone else will. That someone else is Blaine Gabbert, who, at his best, isn’t as good as Kaepernick at his worst. You might think that with such a dearth of talent at QB, the 49ers would lean on their running game, but it’s been hospitalized. Carlos Hyde (foot), Reggie Bush (knee), and Mike Davis (hand) are all unavailable, so San Francisco rushed out to sign Pierre Thomas before anyone could tell him that he would be taking handoffs from Gabbert. With an offense in as much disarray as the 49ers are, even a mediocre opponent should win this battle, let alone a Falcons team that is 4th in overall scoring. If you haven’t used Atlanta, this is the week.

#1: New Orleans over Tennessee (6-2 NE, Mia, SEA, AZ, Atl, GB, STL, KC)

At the midpoint of the NFL season, it’s always interesting to reflect on the paths taken by teams that have defied our expectations. In Week 1, Marcus Mariota looked like an automatic Hall of Fame candidate with four touchdowns in his first NFL game, while Drew Brees and the Saints were blown away by Arizona. Since then, the Titans have not won a single game, and the Saints are 4-3, right back in the middle of the NFC wild card hunt. Mike Mularkey takes over as Tennessee’s head coach this week and will install a run-first mentality, if only to give his beleaguered defense some rest. But a run-first mentality requires a capable running back, and we’ve seen nothing from Antonio Andrews to suggest that he can realistically step into that role. (64 yards vs. a Houston defense that made Miami’s Lamar Miller look like Jim Brown? Seriously?) New Orleans is clicking on offense and is almost unstoppable right now. There is no reason to think that the Titans will be anything more than kindling to a Saints team that is on fire.


Mike Davis has been writing about fantasy football since 1999--and playing video games even longer than that. His latest novel (concerning a gamer who gets trapped inside Nethack after eating too many shrooms) can be found here.