Week 15
12/11/08
Last Week’s Question
In last week’s column,
I solicited feedback concerning female participation in fantasy
leagues. I want to start with Stacey’s response because she
addresses the situation of female FFers from a variety of perspectives:
I'm one of those lone female owners, and
wanted to share a bit of my experience. First, I'm happy to report
that in my 11-man-plus-me league, my team (That's What She Said)
is in 2nd place, and I lead the league in points. I've clinched
a playoff spot, and I'm having a blast.
I'm new to FF. When I got married 2 years ago, I didn't even know
how downs worked, but understood that part of embracing my man
was embracing his sport, as he's played in multiple leagues for
about 10 years. My first league was in 2007 with some other couples.
They used an autopick draft, and it wasn't very competitive. (And,
of course, I didn't know what the hell I was doing). It was marginally
fun at best, but it was a good way to get familiar [with the basic
principles of FF]. In the offseason, I threw myself into understanding
the game more: positions, players, teams, divisions, all of it.
I even had flash cards. This year, I joined a league that did
a live draft, and I spend a lot of time researching each week
before I set my team. I know what I'm doing now. It shows. I am
in 2nd place after having lost Brady, so I feel pretty good.
To answer your question about the double standard (a guy with
a long no-playoff streak would be fine, but a woman with a long
drought would be ridiculed):
Yeah you're right, but I can only guess. As a woman, I'm not sure
I can get into a more competitive league. My husband's main league
is extremely competitive, and I would kill to get into it -- they
do an in-person live auction draft, and I've yelled and cursed
at the television alongside most of the guys during games. When
they talk about losing a few owners next year, I throw my name
out there, but they laugh it off like I'm joking. My younger brother,
who is newer to football than I am, is considered with all seriousness.
Rawr.
Were I to be a part of the league, I think most of the guys would
be fine, but a few would honestly struggle. It's kind of like
FF is their gentleman's club away from wives and babies. They
suggest a wives' league -- the only problem being that their wives
hate football. I'm not sure how much to push. It's a long-standing
league, and I don't want to ruin anyone's fun. On the other hand
-- would a girl in the league really make that much difference?
I'm trying to be patient and prove myself. I'll kick some ass
and make it to the playoffs this next few years, and then -- we'll
see.
Stacey makes far too many excellent points in her response for
me to address each of them, but I do want to hit three highlights.
First, “That’s What She Said” is a brilliant
choice for a team name for a female owner. Second, you obviously
did your homework before the draft and for each week’s lineup
if you are in second place after losing Brady. I know plenty of
male players who just give up when their first or second pick
goes down for the season in Week 1 or Week 2. I confess that in
my second year of playing fantasy, I was such a male player. Third,
I think there may be more to your point about fantasy football
as a “gentleman’s club” than most of us are
willing to admit.
I have been involved in plenty of all-male leagues, and for some
reason the face-to-face drafts that occur in these leagues always
remind me of a frat party. I can’t provide any statistical
support for this assertion, but my sense is that at least 5% of
the men who play fantasy football do so because they are looking
for something along the lines of a fraternity or boy’s club.
If just two of the guys in the league you are looking to join
fit that bill, then I suspect that there really is no way (short
of sprouting a penis) for you to prove yourself worthy of joining
the league.
There are probably a number of female FFers who share the frustration
that you feel concerning how much easier it is for males with
limited FF experience to get into exclusive leagues than females
with successful track records. To answer your question about whether
having “a girl in the league really make[s] that much difference,”
my experience is that having women in fantasy leagues makes no
difference at all in terms of how competitive the league is, but
it does have an effect on league personality. That difference
is an improvement in my estimate, but there are some men—and
they are entitled to their opinion—who think that female
owners spoil the boy’s club thrill of fantasy leagues.
Since my mantra on this website has always been, “Let a
thousand leagues bloom,” I will say plainly that men who
want their leagues to remain all-male are within their rights
to do so. My only caveat would be that if you want to keep women
out of your club because you need a refuge from estrogen, be honest
with yourself about your objectives. Don’t pretend that
you don’t want women in fantasy football because they aren’t
competitive. Professional football may be an exclusively male
sport, but fantasy football is a purely intellectual activity.
If male anatomy has anything to do with the ability to analyze
football, then Tony Kornheiser should have more insightful things
to say on Monday Night Football than Suzy Kolber and
Michelle Tafoya. Honestly, apart from a few misguided executives
at ESPN, is there anyone on the planet who would rather listen
to Kornheiser than Kolber or Tafoya?
I received additional feedback from Kim, a female owner with
more than a decade of experience in running her own fantasy league.
Kim has contributed numerous responses to this column over the
years, and she may be interested to know that when she first started
writing to me, it was easier for me to assume that she was a man
named Kim (since I have known one such person) than that a female
was as knowledgeable about fantasy as she is. Mea culpa, Kim.
You had to expect to hear from me when you
posted this question. At any rate, I'm in 6 different fantasy
leagues this year. One is a 16-team league, and I share a team
with a guy. I am the only woman in this league. It looks like
we'll make the playoffs this year which is quite a feat since
last year (when he was on his own) he only won one game and because
of it we were assigned the first overall pick and couldn't trade
it. (It's no prize to draft first in a 16-team league.) In three
of the other leagues, I think I am likely the only woman; these
are free leagues through either ESPN or CBS Sportsline. I expect
to make the playoffs in all 3. I'm also in another free CBS Sportsline
league that is all-female, and I would judge it to be the most
competitive, top to bottom, of all of the leagues I am in this
year. I do not know any of the women in the league; we all just
joined since it was advertised as being women-only and for those
really into FF. I've locked up a playoff spot in this league as
well. Lastly, there's the league that I started and have been
the commissioner of for the past 11 years. Currently, there are
5 men and 5 women though previous to the past few years it was
typically 7 men and 3 women. Last year, 4 women and 1 man made
the playoffs. This year it is 2 women and 3 men. I would say,
as a whole, the men are more dedicated players than the women
though I have made the playoffs all 11 years, have won the league
6 times and have finished 2nd 4 times. It's an interesting topic.
I'm glad that you've taken it up and will be anxious to hear the
results of your informal polling.
The funny thing about Kim’s response is that she is so active
and so successful in fantasy that I no longer know what to make
of my own informal polling. As we will see in the responses below,
lots of women are bound for the playoffs in various leagues this
year. However, for all I know, most of these women could turn
out to be Kim!
Since Kim is interested in what other readers had to say, let’s
get on to their responses:
Three years ago, our league had a guy ditch
literally at draft time. Lacking any other options, we got four
significant others who were planning on a girls' night out to
co-manage a team. They had crap luck the first two seasons, losing
very competent QB and RB picks to season-long injuries both years,
but they are in the playoffs this year (12-team league with 5
teams making playoffs). [Letting the ladies join us was a] brilliant,
brilliant idea. Now there is way less complaining about watching
football or checking fantasy sites. Of course, our league is pretty
low on trash talk, which I am guessing helps make this work. –
Michael
As for your question, I’ve been in a league with a buddy
of mine that used to run it for his Insurance Agency but ended
up inviting a few friends eventually. One year we had a guy “no-show”
for the draft, so a girlfriend of one of the team owners offered
to take his place. If memory serves me correctly, this was the
year that Shaun Alexander took over for Ricky Watters in Seattle
. As the season went along, she lost Watters to injury, and my
friend “felt sorry for the girl” and traded her Alexander
for next to nothing and she rode him (figuratively of course)
to the title. I’ve never forgiven my friend (a groomsman
in my wedding) for it – I lost to her in the title game.
– David
I’m in the 5th year of managing a 14-team league with a
range of co-workers, friends, and family. We send the Top 6 into
the playoffs with seeds #1 and #2 receiving first-round byes in
Wk 14. Each year my wife and her friend have co-managed a team,
and this marks their third entry into the playoffs. They haven’t
made it past the first round, but they have at least had a chance.
I would say these girls are intermediate in terms of their football
knowledge, but one of their biggest problems when it comes to
building their team on draft day and via the wire, is that as
each girl has a set of rules in their mind about picking players
on certain teams due to long standing dislikes, and beyond that
one girl is a FSU grad and will fight to not pickup someone who
played at Florida or Miami.
2008 – #5 seed
2007 – failed to qualify
2006 – #6 seed
2005 – #4 seed
2004 – failed to qualify – Mike
I play in two fantasy leagues, one with 8 teams, the other with
16. The league with 8 has two women, and the league with 16 has
three. My wife plays in both leagues. The league with 16 is in
its fifth season. This season marks the 3rd she has made the playoffs
of the four seasons she has played. In fact, when the commish
of that league threw a tantrum and quit, she considered taking
over until somebody else beat her to the punch and offered to
do it. It has added another dimension to our marriage and gives
us something to talk about other than the bills or what we're
going to do for dinner. It definitely has helped us decide what
to watch on Sundays (except for which game to watch), and I don't
get in trouble for leaving the TV on the NFL network or ESPN during
the week while waiting for player news! – Kyle
This week you asked about women? I have 2 women in this league
and the both missed the playoffs (9th and 12th place). I don't
think they have any genetic disadvantage...
In my mind, it all comes down to two reasons, and they have nothing
to do with gender.
1. Time and Effort: In our league, the people who put in the research
and stay on top of things are the ones that stay near the top
of the league each year. The people who are just casual FF owners
just can't compete with us die-hard fanatics.
2. LUCK: If you have several starting studs go out with season
ending injuries, there is not much you can do in a 12 team league
where 75% of the backup QB's and 95% of the backup RB's are already
on rosters. – David
Hi Mike, I play in 4 leagues, 2 have at least one female player
this year.
I’ve played in a league with my sister and a female cousin
for 10 years now. They are both very competitive.
In another league, we had our first female player join this year.
As I understand it, this is her first fantasy football experience
ever. She is currently the No. 1 seed heading into the playoffs
and NOT afraid to rub it in our faces. – Michael
The primary lesson that we learn from my informal poll is that
most men who play fantasy football are named Michael or David.
Perhaps the more important lesson, however, is that women win
some and lose some. They pay the same price as male FFers for
injuries. Lady Luck, as the second David points out, pays no attention
to gender.
When I started playing FF, I went out of my way to draft Raiders
because Oakland was my team. It took me a few years to realize
that Tim Brown didn’t earn extra points for looking really
cool in black and silver, but I had to rethink my team loyalty
in order to become more competitive in the world of fantasy. Mike’s
story about the female FSU grad who avoids drafting players from
Florida and Miami reminds me of my own stubborn commitment to
Oakland. That female owner will either outgrow her stubbornness
or she won’t, but I doubt that her sex will have anything
to do with her development as an owner.
My thanks to everyone who responded to last week’s question.
There is part of me that would like to see FFToday run a league
with 50% male and 50% female ownership in order to make women
feel more at home in the world of fantasy football, but I can’t
help thinking that it would just be a waste of time. What would
such a league really prove? How would one go about selecting the
participants? If Mike Krueger agreed to represent maledom in such
a league, who would his female analogue be? I’ll be happy
to take any suggestions that readers might have to Krueger, but
I am having a hard time making the case for such a league in my
own mind—much less to my colleagues at FFToday.
This Week’s Question
How can we put Week 17 to use?
I ask this question every year, and every year readers manage
to surprise me with their creative responses. We have covered
the reasons for playing championship games in Week 17. (The best
one appears to be that it makes the fantasy season last as long
as possible.) We have covered the reasons against playing championship
games in Week 17. (The best one is that star players on teams
that have locked up home-field advantage tend to see limited action.)
We have also touched on the idea of a two-week championship game
(in Weeks 16 and 17). Dan wrote to me this week with an interesting
idea for handling Week 17. Please let
me know if you have alternative suggestions or ways for improving
his idea.
I had an idea I posed to our commissioner
that maybe next year we could propose a new playoff system, which
would conclude with the ultimate test of FFB skills of drafting,
analyzing teams, and playing the matchups. It would be a head-to-head
matchup as expected; however the night prior to the first NFL
game of Week 17, the 2 owners [who make it to the championship]
will draft from scratch 8 starters (and no backups) for their
championship team roster. First pick goes to the owner with the
best record or total points scored if tie, etc., then they proceed
from there.
I thought this would be a great way to test people’s skills
on evaluating talent and matchups. The competing owners would
have to assess the risk factors of picking players on NFL teams
with locks and home field advantage in the playoffs, or bottom
dwellers subbing in their rookies and 4th stringers. There are
lots of reasons we normally DON”T use Week 17, but obviously
by redrafting, the owners could overcome those disadvantages.
(Courtesy
of Marc Mondry)
Sorry guys, but this is the last week of law school finals, so
my analysis will be brief once again. I promise I will make it
up to you – in fact, for any of you still alive come week
16 and 17, if you email
me with the teams still available to you, and ask nicely,
I will write personalized recommendations with in-depth analysis
back to you for those two weeks. Let that be my thank you to all
of you for being loyal readers throughout the season.
Last Week’s Bust: None
Trap Game: Cincinnati over Washington
Be careful about this game – it looks great on paper, but
it might not pan out as expected. The Bengals are hosting a Redskins
team this week that will bring with it a less-than-healthy Clinton
Portis, a struggling offense, and a defense absolutely riddled
with injuries. The team has been playing without heart for the
past couple of weeks. They supposedly were going to come out fired
up against the Giants two weeks ago (with the Sean Taylor ceremony),
and played an ugly game against a team now proven to be very beatable.
Then they played the Ravens this past week and looked completely
demoralized.
In the last 5 games, the Skins have topped 10 points just once,
in a lackluster win against Seattle, 20-17. Admittedly, the other
4 teams were the Giants, Steelers, Cowboys, and Ravens. However,
Washington also has a habit of playing down to bad teams (see
the games against Seattle and Detroit, two contests in which they
trailed at the half). One more loss would knock the Skins out
of playoff contention. They lack the talent and the will to make
a push these last 3 games, and the Bengals might just put them
out of their misery this week.
Pick 3: New York Jets over Buffalo
(SEATTLE, JACKSONVILLE, NEW YORK GIANTS,
MINNESOTA, PITTSBURGH, BALTIMORE, PHILADELPHIA, MIAMI, CAROLINA,
CHICAGO, TENNESSEE, INDIANAPOLIS)
It’s not easy to pick the Jets with confidence, especially
after they looked pathetic this past week against San Francisco,
and just as bad the week before against Denver. That said, they
are now tied with New England and Miami for the division lead,
and it’s now or never for them. Can you think of a better
now-or-never man than Brett Favre? The Jets will come into this
division matchup fired up and ready to go—and will pound
a floundering Bills squad.
The Bills are done, cooked, dead meat. J.P. Losman cannot run
the offense, and though Marshawn Lynch is famous for his “beast
mode,” we’ve seen the beast only once this year. It
theoretically came out against an awful Cleveland rush defense,
and beat them for 177 yards and a score. Since then, he has been
mediocre at best. Add defensive woes to Buffalo’s offensive
stuggles, and you have a team that just cannot win against quality
opponents.
Pick 2: Indianapolis over Detroit
(TENNESSEE, dallas, CHICAGO, new york
giants, TAMPA BAY, san francisco, Jacksonville, CAROLINA, philadelphia,
WASHINGTON, new york jets, NEW ENGLAND)
There simply is nothing to be said here. Detroit almost did it
last week against Minnesota (as predicted right here), even with
both Williamses shoring up the defensive line. However, this week,
Daunte Culpepper might not be able to play, and to compare the
Vikings offense to the Colts offense would be a travesty. Detroit
could not stop Tarvaris Jackson (the man benched earlier this
season for 37-year-old journeyman Gus Frerotte) from marching
down the field. How do they expect to stop a blazing hot Colts
team?
Ok, maybe blazing hot is a bit of an exaggeration, but they have
won their last 6 games, beating New England and Pittsburgh (my
favorite to come out of the AFC) in the process. Joey Addai has
struggled mightily all season, but as a result Dominic Rhodes
has gotten more opportunities and has performed admirably. Peyton
Manning is playing a whole lot more like the old Peyton, and even
the defense has been shutting down all but the best of offenses
(yes, Houston counts as one of the best offenses). Detroit’s
offense is a lot less like Houston’s (27 points against
Indy) than it is like Cincinnati’s (3 points against Indy).
Indy should win big.
Pick 1: Philadelphia over Cleveland
(BUFFALO, denver, CAROLINA, washington,
TENNESSEE, NEW YORK JETS, CHICAGO, ARIZONA, NEW YORK GIANTS, PITTSBURGH,
DALLAS, SAN DIEGO)
I never learn. I got burned the last time I picked Philadelphia
to beat an underperforming AFC North opponent. This also has some
of the makings of a let-down game, given what the Eagles did to
the Giants last week (yes, it pains to even mention it). However,
in contrast to the Redskins (as discussed above), the Eagles have
heart. I hate Donovan McNabb and Brian Westbrook just as much
as any other loyal Giants fan, but damn do those guys have heart.
At 7-5-1, the Eagles probably need to win all 3 of their games
to get into the playoffs, and if they drop one, it most certainly
will not be against the lowly Browns, led by Ken Dorsey, the man
who couldn’t beat out Charlie Frye for a backup gig. Ouch.
I’m not sure if you noticed, but these are the only two
teams to beat the Giants all year long. Strange that it will likely
be a blowout.
And a last aside, remember my rant about the Eagles not getting
Westbrook the ball in their tie with the Bengals? Well, someone
was listening, and that someone was Marty Mornhinweg, the Eagles’
offensive coordinator. In the last two weeks, the Eagles have
beaten the only two teams in the NFC to clinch their division,
and in those two games Westbrook has 64 touches for 333 yards
and 6TDs. Coincidence? I think not.
For responses to this week's fantasy question please email
me no later than 10 a.m. EST on Wednesdays during the football
season.
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