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Q & A: Week 10
11/6/14

Last Week's Question: Have you seen any questionable trades in your league this year?

In my column for Week 9, I asked readers to send in details concerning controversial trades and/or vetoed trade proposals in their leagues. I got some pretty outrageous responses, such as this one from Shaun:

Mark Brunell (yes, the retired QB) was traded for Ryan Tannehill.

One owner picked up Brunell as a joke and sort of mocking ESPN for having retired players still in the FA pool. He then offered the trade and it was accepted by the other owner. The two owners involved in the trade are playing each other this week. One owner claims he had a strategy and he would let me know what it was after this week.


This one is a head scratcher for multiple reasons. We all know that retirement isn't necessarily permanent in the NFL (just ask linebacker James Harrison), so the idea of picking up a retiree isn't necessarily flawed.

But using a roster spot in 2014 on Mark Brunell (who was never a consistent fantasy starter even when he was active) isn't quite the same thing as burning your last draft pick on Barry Sanders in 1999 (something I saw people do "Just in case he decides to come back").

If I had to guess at the "strategy" behind the trade, I would say that it has something to do with demonstrating the near worthlessness/interchangeability of any QB rated 15th or lower (since most leagues only have room for 10 to 14 starting QBs). Why trade for Tannehill when you can probably pick up Ryan Fitzpatrick or Alex Smith or Brian Hoyer on waivers?

But my guess is probably wrong. I don't really have a clue why such a trade was proposed, accepted, and approved . . . primarily because I don't participate in the league in which it happened.

Trades that happen in leagues with which we aren't familiar don't just seem strange because of minor variations in scoring. There's also a historical, inter-personal dynamic that outsiders generally can't get a handle on.

Take Gary's league as an example. They clearly have a "laissez-faire" attitude about trades, which I totally get. But they also apparently have a Bears fan who thought the way to demonstrate his team loyalty was to trade Matt Forte AWAY (albeit for other Bears players):

Traditionally, our commish does not approve or disapprove trades. Our line of thinking is, we are all big boys and if two of us want to swap, we can swap, for whatever reason.

We only had two trades this season (we are touchdown only).

1) Marshall and Cutler for Luck and Forte . Honestly, not sure why this was made. I guess the Bears fan who got Cutler and Marshall felt the Bears would be airing it out and perhaps thinks Luck’s luck will run out. And Forte? Eeesch.

2) I made a trade before deadline of Romo and Torrey Smith for RG III and E. Sanders. This was before hearing Romo would be out. I have Brees and since his bye week passed, I traded my asset, Romo for Sanders. He gave me RG and I gave him Smith so we both had backups (his QB was Tannehill). I feel I made out.


Neither of these trades competes with the Brunell swap above for sheer outrageousness, but the first one demonstrates something important about the perception of player value. Before the season started, most of us rated Cutler and Marshall quite high. These are guys with big names and a long history of production. It turns out that as of Week 10 in 2014, Cutler is roughly the 10th most productive QB in the NFL, and Marshall is roughly the 30th most productive WR.

They're not exactly duds this year, but they have been disappointing--and they were traded for the #1 QB and the #1 RB in the NFL.

I'm not sure how many people would have expected the first trade to be vetoed in their league; I certainly wouldn't have expected any problem with such a trade going through, especially in the early part of the season. But what if we had substituted two players who don't have the fantasy clout of Cutler and Marshall in the trade? Note that Joe Flacco is just about on par with Cutler so far this year. And Julian Edelman is doing a hair better than Marshall.

So what if that first trade had been Edelman and Flacco (a 30th-ish WR and a 10th-ish QB) for Luck and Forte? Would that have set off alarms in your league?

Big names make lopsided trades seem more balanced than they are. When commissioners have to veto or approve a trade, they may find themselves struggling less with issues of balance than premonitions of "perceived imbalance" from owners who wouldn't object to the trade of Forte for Marshall--but would pitch a fit if someone traded Forte for Edelman.

I understand why so many commissioners prefer to leave the vetoing/approving of trades to a league vote (even though that often leads to fair trades being blocked by owners who simply don't want to see the competition improve). So for all you commissioners who rise to the challenge of vetoing suspicious trades, I salute you (even if I don't always agree with you). Consider the case of Jared, who sent me the most detailed and complicated response of the week:

Below is the trade I vetoed [in] a 12-team, .5 PPR keeper league. [Each owner] can keep two [players from one season to the next, but] since it is an auction league, the cap hit on each player rises each year you keep him. $200 cap.

Randall Cobb and Chris Ivory for Shane Vereen (after Ridley injury), LeSean McCoy, Jimmy Graham, & Cordarrelle Patterson.

I hate vetoing any trade, but felt this was way too lopsided even with McCoy having underperformed. Things I took into consideration: current performance, rest of the way rankings (off your site), and next year’s cap hit/predicted performance.

Cobb’s cap hit is only 4 dollars next year (fantastic bargain), whereas McCoy and Graham are going to be way too expensive to keep . . . both above $55. I thought Vereen and Patterson were a good return, but that player wanted more.

Wound up approving the trade after player 1 added the Cleveland defense and Doug Martin to the mix……so hard when you have underperforming players like Patterson and McCoy clouding what would typically be a VERY lopsided trade. The whole league was shouting collusion, but I felt that with all things said, I really had no choice but to approve it after they changed it. What do you think?


What do I think? I think I could write a whole series of articles about that trade. And I would start by looking at the way player 2 has sandwiched his two studs between also-rans. If I'm giving up both McCoy and Graham, you better believe those two names are up top, not lost somewhere in the haze between Vereen and Patterson.

Even though Jared goes out of his way to point out that the $4 cap hit on Cobb in 2015 is an important incentive to player 2, I think it will be hard for most readers to process that little tidbit of information . . . because they will be too busy crying "Collusion!" in response to the idea of swapping two first-round picks (McCoy & Graham) for one receiver who probably stayed on the board for several rounds in a 10-team draft.

That's another problem with trades. Although Cobb has exceeded expectations and McCoy has disappointed, some owners cling to the value suggested by preseason rankings even though the season is halfway over. And they aren't necessarily wrong to do that. Most preseason rankings had Graham ahead of Martellus Bennett even though Bennett has been more valuable to this point. But it's reasonable to wonder whether Bennett will still be ahead at the end of the season. Plenty of FFers allow preseason rankings to affect their assessment of players well into the season--as if the "true" value of a player for the remainder of the year can be calculated by averaging what he has actually done with what he was projected to do.

So poor Jared the commissioner has to weigh all these factors before ruling on trades. And if he is in the same position as most commissioners (i.e. if he is only authorized to block collusion and not stupidity), then a veto means that he is essentially calling the trading partners "cheaters," which is not a fun situation to be in--for him or them.

Is it any surprise that after his veto, the trading partners came back with a second proposal? More to the point, does the second proposal (the one that he approved) seem less suspicious than the first? Again, since I don't participate in the league and don't know the history/personality traits of the owners involved, it's really hard for me to say. But as I wrote to Jared in my correspondence with him, "If a trade deserves to be vetoed, does throwing in the Cleveland defense and yet another underperforming RB [Doug Martin] really even things out?"

Of course, commissioners aren't just dealing with player valuations; they are also juggling owner egos and complicated group dynamics. Jared wrote back to let me know that "this trade crushed the league [because he had some] people shouting collusion [and] others saying it was unfair to veto the trade at all."

Unfortunately, understanding what makes trades "suspicious" requires an awful lot of context about the leagues in which they are proposed. I'm grateful to everyone who wrote in with stories of questionable trades this year, and especially to those of you who provided me with background information that I requested privately. However, in the interest of keeping this column (which is already too long) manageable, I'm going to condense the most important material I haven't covered in the next section.

This Week's Question: #1: Is this ethical? / #2: Are competing spouses a case of collusion waiting to happen?

As I was preparing this week's column, a question from Gary L. (not the Gary quoted above) reached my inbox. I really look forward to seeing what some of my long-time readers have to say about this one:

Question #1: Is this ethical?

Say my defense is on a bye, but I don't want to drop any of my players and risk losing them. Another owner, who I am not playing this week, needs a QB and also doesn't want to drop any of his players. I have a spare QB on my bench, and he has a spare defense on his. Is it ethical for us to trade my QB for his defense? What about if our intention is to trade them back after this week...is that ethical? Does it matter if all four teams involved (me, him, and both of our opponents) have already qualified for the playoffs?

Question #2: Should spouses be allowed to compete in the same league?

I'm not talking about spouses who co-own/co-manage a team. No one seems to have a problem with that. I'm talking about spouses who (like the married couple in The League, for those who know the show) own separate teams and might want to trade with each other in the course of the season.

I pose this question because multiple readers who wrote in this week about trades that they suspect to be collusive pointed to the fact that the trading partners were married as a damning piece of evidence.

Have any commissioners out there actually given this matter any thought that they're willing to share? Are there leagues that forbid married couples from joining as separate owners? Are there leagues that allow married couples to participate, but forbid them to trade with each other? Are any commissioners out there willing to admit that they view trades between spouses with a "presumption of collusion"? Do you scrutinize trades between spouses more harshly than trades between roommates? Between siblings? This seems like a very delicate line to draw, and I'm eager to know whether you've drawn it at all--and why.

Survivor Picks - Week 10 (Courtesy of Matthew Schiff)

Trap Game: Green Bay over Chicago
I only highlight this game because the Bears are desperate for a win against their division foes to stay in the race in a division that many expected them to win. With a Packers win, the Bears would be 3-6 and looking up at everyone else in the NFC North. Can Coach Marc Trestman recover from falling three games behind the second-place Packers and possibly four behind the division-leading Lions? We'll find out if the Bears lose, and it's hard to see how they can win at Lambeau against a Packer offense that is firing on all three cylinders (Rodgers, Cobb, and Lacy). The Chicago defense isn’t bad, but it also isn't what it used to be. For that reason alone, Green Bay should pull this off.

#3: Denver over Oakland (8-1: Pit, NO, CIN, SF, CLE, SD, NE, KC, SEA)
Tom Brady and company may have manhandled the Denver Broncos last Sunday, but fear not Bronco faithful, for you have the Oakland Raiders up next on the road. Ronnie Hillman has taken over the starting running back spot, and even though Monte Ball is practicing, look for Hillman to remain the #1back. To sweeten this matchup even more, the Oakland Raiders have allowed a little more than 26 fantasy points per week to the opposing starting running back. So, while Peyton Manning may want to open it up and dust off some of the rust from last week’s loss, the rushing game will be enough to deliver this win.

#2: Baltimore over Tennessee (4-5: CHI, Sea, NO, TB, DET, Den, CLE, MIA, KC)
The Titans are coming off their bye and looking to get back on a winning streak after losing their last two games. Coach Whisenhunt needs to find someone who can lead this team. They have had three different quarterbacks in the last eight weeks, and their running game can't maintain a steady pulse. On the other side of the ball, Joe Flacco is doing better than most of us expected after he lost two of his best weapons (Ray Rice and Dennis Pitta) early in the season. Surprisingly, with the addition of Steve Smith, this offense may have actually improved since last season. Unless the Ravens get lulled to sleep by the Titans, look for the home team to run away with this one.

Larry Fitzgerald
Image by Tilt Creative (Ty Schiff)

#1: Arizona over St. Louis (7-2: PHI, DEN, NE, SD, GB, SEA, BAL, DAL, CIN):
What are the characteristics of a trap game? Hmmm . . . let's see. Is the favorite coming off a “huge” win in the conference? Check. Is the favorite likely to overlook the current matchup because they have a big game against a tough opponent (such as, for argument's sake, Detroit) the following week? Check. Does the favorite have good reason to feel in control of the division? Check. Are they playing against a team that is inferior on paper? Check. Are they playing against a divisional opponent? Check.

But not mate. In spite of all of these makings of a trap game--not to mention the fact that the Rams beat a very good Seahawks team and almost beat the 49ers--these Cardinals are playing as well as (if not better than) the 2009 Super Bowl team that lost 27-23 to the Steelers. Larry Fitzgerald looks to be rejuvenated with 12-year veteran Carson Palmer under center. Considering the Cardinals' dedication to the goal of participating in the Super Bowl scheduled to occur in their home stadium, it would take a herculean effort by Austin Davis and his Rams to pull off this major upset.


Mike Davis has been writing about fantasy football since 1999. As a landlocked Oklahoman who longs for the sound of ocean waves, he also writes about ocean colonization under the pen name Studio Dongo. The latest installment in his science fiction series can be found here.