Session V – A Win’s a Win
When?
10/10/08
First, I want to thank everyone for reading the column and for sending
in your questions. I appreciate questions as well as feedback
to my advice. It’s always good to get another perspective
on fantasy football and to keep an open mind on certain situations.
I’ve already gleaned a couple of new ideas from your feedback
that I want to implement in my league next season. I also want to
apologize for delays in responses to questions over the past few
weeks. The job I actually get paid to do was keeping me overly busy,
but I’ve tried to respond to everyone’s questions albeit
a bit later than I’d like, and will continue to do so as quickly
as I can for the rest of the season.
As I mentioned in last week’s column,
I want to address a scoring error that occurred in my league and
how we handled this situation. The bigger picture regarding this
topic is what to do when results of completed games are changed
for various reasons.
In my league, team defenses receive points for yardage allowed.
I use CBS sportsline for my commissioner software. For years I’ve
set the scoring ranges for yards allowed as shown below.
- 0 – 99 Yards = 6 Points
- 100 – 199 Yards = 4 Points
- 200 – 299 Yards = 2 Points
- 400 – 499 Yards = -2 Points
- 500+ Yards = -4 Points
As you can see there is no range set for 300 – 399 yards
allowed because you score no points in this range. For some reason
Sportsline was scoring yards allowed in this range as 2 points,
as if it was in the range above. This setup had functioned properly
for several years until this point. This was pointed out to me
in week three by an owner regarding his opponent’s scoring.
The first thing I did was to check the prior weeks results, hoping
no game outcomes were impacted by some defenses getting two unearned
points. Of course I was out of luck, there was a game in week
one where a team lost by 1.5 points where his opponent received
two extra points from his defense. Obviously the error had to
be corrected in the current week (week three) and going forward,
but what should be done about the week 1 result that had been
in the standings now for two weeks?
There are two very logical paths of action. The first would be
to let the week one game stand. I always like to look to the NFL
for precedent where applicable and there is no precedent in the
NFL for a game result being overturned due to an error in the
application of the rules. See week-two’s San Diego / Denver
game for proof of that axiom. The other option would be to enforce
the rules as they were written and apply points to the statistics
as intended. In this instance I chose the later option. My logic
was that this was an error on the part of CBS sportsline in applying
our league rules, and had the error not occurred, the outcome
of the game would have been correct. I reversed the week one results
and explained to the league what had happened. In retrospect,
I’m still torn over this decision and I’m not sure
I made the right call. We currently have a statistics protest
rule in effect and if there is a stats change made prior to Friday
of the current week’s games, owners can submit the corrected
NFL stats and those changes will be updated (i.e. Jay Cutler in
week one going from 299 to 300 yards). If I had applied that rule
to this situation, I could have made it the owner’s responsibility
to review his box score and notify me of the error that the sportsline
software was making. Ultimately the key factor in my reversing
the result is that fantasy football is a statistics based game
and the correct numbers should govern the results.
To go along with this experience, I had a related question from
an owner last week. It seemed that his commissioner erred when
creating his league schedule. In order to correct this error the
commissioner in question rescheduled the entire season after three
weeks of playing the incorrect schedule. This resulted in a complete
change of game results and standings for the first three weeks.
Naturally this owner was skeptical of the motivation as he went
from 3-0 to 1-2 while his commissioner’s team went from
0-3 to 2-1. In a case like this I can’t advise this course
of action. Schedules are part of the luck that is inherent in
fantasy football and to manipulate that in the midst of the season
will never sit well with owners. In this case the problem was
that the commissioner didn’t schedule multiple divisional
match-ups and couldn’t fit them all in without re-creating
the schedule. To me, the solution would have been to re-work the
schedule going forward to accommodate as many divisional match-ups
as possible. This does point out the importance of schedule in
fantasy football and why it’s good practice to include the
schedule as part of your league’s rules and not rely solely
on having it input correctly into the league’s commissioner
service. I’ve made mistakes in the entering the schedule
in sportsline before, but having the schedule published in your
rules document allows you to fall back on that document to make
your corrections.
Yet another way completed games can be impacted are by post-game
statistics changes. Most commissioner services finalize results
on Tuesday morning. Some do allow for retroactive stat changes
after that period. This is the note that is on MFL’s (myfantasyleague)
website regarding this situation.
“Occasionally, the Elias Sports Bureau
(the official Statistician of the NFL) will make official statistics
changes after a week's games have been completed. Note that there
is no set schedule for when these corrections are announced -
they might be announced a day after a game is over, and at other
times, it may be weeks later.”
Based on this information, game results could be changed weeks
down the road if you don’t account for this in your league
rules. As I previously stated, owners in my league have until
the Friday following the week’s games to review their box
score and note any statistical changes or errors. After that,
the books close on the week and results will not be modified.
The reason for doing this is, despite the fact that I would prefer
to have points based on 100% correct stats, I feel you cannot
keep game results open for the entire season. Team owners make
decisions based on where they are in the league standings and
to have your standings be in a constant state of flux due to stats
tweaks won’t sit well with owners. I’ve tried to accommodate
stats corrections for as long as I feel is reasonable without
leaving owners in limbo as to whether or not they’ll win
or lose a close game for the rest of the season.
There were some great questions from the past couple of weeks.
Let’s take a look at a couple of them.
Q) My league, now in year seven,
has added one IDP spot. The scoring is minimal. There is almost
no impact. Do you have any scoring suggestions? What is a typical
scoring system? Secondly, we have noticed that offensive players
are accruing IDP stats (tackles by kickers, fumbles recovered
by WRs etc.). Again our scoring for these stats is minimal, but
a match-up will undoubtedly be determined by one of these occurrences.
Is this commonplace for the IDP stats to bleed into offensive
players?
A) Let’s answer the second
part of your question first. To control the “stat bleed”
issue my league’s scoring system up to be positional. That
is players cannot accumulate points outside their position. WR's
don’t get return yardage or fumbles on kick returns. Kickers
only get points for kicking, not for passing or for rushing if
that happens.
If you don't have that option with your league management software
(Sportsline does), then you'd have to manually adjust these out
each week. I sometimes have to do this if a WR fumbles on a punt
return. I make it a team owner’s responsibility to notify
me within the week if that is the case. Otherwise the score stands.
I think that these stats are flukes and not worth rewarding points
for, but others may have a different opinion. It’s really
a personal preference, but I don't think Rex Grossman should get
points for all the tackles he had to make on interception returns.
In regard to the first portion of the question, I've only played
in one IDP league so I don't have a good scoring system off the
top of my head but I’ll ask the readers here for some suggestions
and pass those on.
Q) In week five you saw special
teams TDs by DeSean Jackson and Reggie Bush. In my league those
TDs are credited to the Defense/Special Teams unit, and not to
the individual player. In your experience is that typically the
case or do you have experience where the TD is credited to both
the player and to the Defense/Special Team?
A) In leagues that field a team
Defense / Special teams unit, I typically see these TDs scored
as you described. They are credited to the DST unit, not the individual
player. If a league does credit these stats to the individual
player then they typically don't get credited to the team unit.
This is the approach I prefer because I don't like the idea of
a scoring statistic counting twice. However, this is a personal
preference type issue. If you want to see special teams plays
count for individual players as well as a DST unit, there's nothing
wrong with that, just be sure to clarify that in your rules so
your owners can factor this into their draft decisions.
That's all for this session. If you've got any suggestions for
IDP scoring I'd love to receive
those as my experience is limited there, plus any other questions
you may have for the commissioner.
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