Shaun King
11/25/04
The “Gut Feeling” is often synonymous with a sense
of desperation resulting from a lack of preparation. The Gut Check
is a huge proponent of studying the numbers, but there’s
a point where one can place too much emphasis on the wrong information.
This can result in the undervaluing or overlooking a player’s
potential. Therefore, The Weekly Gut Check is devoted to examining
the frame of reference behind certain number-driven guidelines
that fantasy football owners use to make decisions.
Although The Weekly Gut Check doesn’t claim to be psychic,
he does believe that he can dispel certain numbers biases and
help you make the best choices for your team. We’ll keep
a running tally of The Weekly Gut Check’s insights. This
way you can gauge his views as something to seriously consider,
or at least seriously consider running the opposite way as fast
as you can!
Probably the biggest surprise of week 11 for The Gut Check was
Dennis Green's decision to bench QB Josh McCown for his backup
Shaun King. The Cardinals, entering the Carolina game with a 4-5
record, were clearly in contention for a playoff spot in the NFC.
So the change at quarterback just as Anquan Bolden returned to
the lineup and Larry Fitzgerald raised his level of production
seemed like a crazy move. But to many, so did some of Green's
other decisions as an NFL head coach:
Green Decisions |
Year |
Player |
Comments |
2002 |
Michael Bennett |
The glorified track star developed and
had nearly 1300 yards in his second season. |
2000 |
Daunte Culpepper |
Made C-Pep the starter in his second
year with no playing time as a rookie and Jeff George
had a statistcally great 12-game stretch the year before.
Result: C-Pep takes the Vikes to the NFC championship
game. |
1999 |
Jeff George |
Nearly 3000 yards and 23 tds in 12 games
was a great fill-in for Cunningham |
1999 |
Randy Moss |
They already had dual 1,000-yard threats
Cris Carter and Jake Reed. Why take a chance with your
1st round pick on "the next Lawrence Phillips?" |
1998 |
Randall Cunningham |
Talk about a reclamation project. He
was working in a marble counter business before Denny
called him. Result: 14 GS, 3704 yds, 34 tds!!! |
1997 |
Brad Johnson |
Dennis Green is much of the reason Johnson
got an opportunity to show his skills. |
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Based on the fact this list includes personnel decision on four
different quarterbacks, does it seem obvious where The Gut Check
is heading with this? Is Yours Truly serious? Shaun King is an
interesting-enough player this week (and possibly beyond) from
a fantasy perspective to do a profile of his potential and an
examination of Green's decision to bench McCown.
The Gut Check picked Shaun King as one of his Under
The Radar selections in July:
The former Tulane star and Buccaneers starter has been the butt
of many fantasy owners' jokes throughout the years. Yet the Gut
Check thinks King is in the right situation to put up good numbers
if Denny Green calls upon him and the Cardinals supporting cast
improves as much as speculated. Remember, King played with enough
poise to help the Buccaneers come oh so close to the Super Bowl
in 1999. And if it weren't for an incomplete pass that inspired
a rule change, King just might have been a more sought-after commodity.
Of course, his horrible showing against Pittsburgh on Monday Night
Football in 2002, put a damper on his prospects. A good game there,
and it isn't inconceivable that King might have been in Carolina
in 2003.
Of course, Carolina fans are probably very happy with Delhomme
and feel there's good reason for the decision. Nonetheless, the
Gut Check has a feeling that Denny Green views King as an under-appreciated
quarterback that can be a productive player. McCown may be a sleeper
pick for good reason in 2004, but King is lurking under the radar
if he falters-and the Cardinals have enough talent at receiver
for fantasy owners to take a chance on him as a waiver wire product
if necessary.
The first question is whether McCown faltered in his starting
role? Here are the third-year signal-caller's stats for 2004:
McCown in '04 |
Year |
G |
GS |
Att |
Comp |
% |
Yds |
YPA |
Lg |
TD |
INT |
Rate |
2004 |
9 |
9 |
251 |
143 |
57 |
1492 |
5.94 |
48 |
6 |
4 |
75.7 |
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Again, it's not clear from the stats whether one can have a definitive
answer to this question. McCown's td to interception ratio is on
the positive end, but he certainly isn't prolific with scoring opportunities.
It's not like McCown had a healthy receiving corps to start the
season, but the same argument can be made for Trent Green. Although
Emmitt Smith and Freddie Jones won't be mistaken for Priest Holmes
and Tony Gonzalez at this point in their careers, both have been
healthy and relatively productive. The Gut Check wants to break
this down further.
McCown's 57% completion percentage is not very good. Considering
Fitzgerald has been starting as an injured rookie, Boldin has
been out, and Marcel Shippa better receiver out of the backfield
than Smithhas been hurt, there are some arguments to be
made in defense of his completion percentage and his paltry 5.94
yards per attempt. But The Gut Check likes to speculate at the
frame of reference behind certain decisions. ESPN's Chris Mortensen
mentioned on the air Monday night that Dennis Green planned to
give McCown a two-month window of opportunity as the starter.
At first glance, this sounds like a coach making something up
to defend a decision his fan base will question. The Gut Checkalthough
prone to flights of naivetéis buying this explanation.
It's humorous that as football fans we can question the carousel-like
nature in which most coaches in the NFL throw a quarterback into
the line up one week and then yank him for someone else the next
and this repeats itself until it seems like the coach is changing
out guys by the quarter!
When this process occurs, which player is getting the most reps
in practice? Which player gets the most focus in meetings with
the coaching staff? How does a coaching staff effectively determine
whether the player improves from week to week without consecutive
game experience? Seriously, just think about your job. Were you
trained well to do your job? Depending on your company and your
boss you'll say yes or no (and depending on your talent and ability
to be realistic with yourself you'll be right or wrong).
Dennis Green decided to take a more patient approach and suddenly
people are questioning Green. It's understandable, since the Cardinals
were 4-5 going into the weekend. But The Gut Check believes Green
did something that few coaches really do: give a player a chance
to prove his value with an extended audition. McCown got to start
against a variety of defenses, demonstrate his ability to make
in game and weekly adjustments, and get some time to grow in a
new offensive system. It seems to The Gut Check that Green put
a lot more thought into his decision on changing to King than
many coaches have done in recent years. Another important factor
to consider is that Green doesn't appear to be pressured from
a financial perspective to play one quarterback over the otherwhich
means Green has enjoyed greater freedom to fairly evaluate the
situation.
So what did Green see from McCown that prompted his decision?
The Gut Check did not get to watch many Cardinals games, but digging
deeper into the stats supports some theories Yours Truly has about
McCown:
Diminishing McCown |
CAT |
G |
Att |
Comp |
% |
Yds |
YPA |
TD |
INT |
1rst% |
20+ |
Rate |
ATTEMPTS 1-THROUGH-10 |
0 |
90 |
54 |
60 |
497 |
5.5 |
2 |
1 |
44.4 |
5 |
77.9 |
ATTEMPTS 11-THROUGH-20 |
0 |
88 |
52 |
59 |
565 |
6.4 |
1 |
1 |
46.2 |
7 |
77.1 |
ATTEMPTS 21-THROUGH-30 |
0 |
62 |
31 |
50 |
391 |
6.3 |
2 |
2 |
54.8 |
8 |
67.3 |
ATTEMPTS 31+ |
0 |
11 |
6 |
55 |
39 |
3.6 |
1 |
0 |
33.3 |
0 |
92.6 |
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This table shows that McCown's completion percentage and quarterback
rating diminishes with more attempts. This could point to McCown
not doing a great job adjusting to the opposing defense as they
adjust to him. The increased yards per attempt as his attempts increase,
coupled with his decreasing completion percentage indicates a possible
difficulty reading a completing intermediate and deep opportunities.
The next table supports that McCown seems to have difficulties
in situations where opposing teams know he has to throw the ball.
McCown In The Clutch |
CAT |
G |
Att |
Comp |
% |
Yds |
YPA |
TD |
INT |
1rst% |
20+ |
Rate |
FIRST DOWN |
0 |
80 |
52 |
65 |
463 |
5.8 |
3 |
1 |
26.9 |
6 |
87.7 |
SECOND DOWN |
0 |
84 |
44 |
52 |
574 |
6.8 |
0 |
1 |
54.5 |
9 |
69.2 |
THIRD DOWN |
0 |
84 |
46 |
55 |
427 |
5.1 |
2 |
2 |
60.9 |
4 |
66.9 |
FOURTH DOWN |
0 |
3 |
1 |
33 |
28 |
9.3 |
1 |
0 |
100 |
1 |
108 |
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Notice the dramatic difference in McCown's completion percentage
on all downs in comparison to first down? Half of McCown's touchdown
passes were from first-down playswhich probably points to
catching the defense off guard, rather than just making a good read
against decent coverage. The fact that the number of attempts for
each down is about the same demonstrates the McCown has some difficulties
making the throws when the offense really needs him to come through.
The final table on McCown is certainly an indictment of this
previous point.
McCown... A Poised Leader? |
CAT |
G |
Att |
Comp |
% |
Yds |
YPA |
TD |
INT |
1rst% |
20+ |
Rate |
1ST QUARTER |
0 |
56 |
33 |
59 |
311 |
5.6 |
1 |
1 |
48.5 |
4 |
72.8 |
2ND QUARTER |
0 |
74 |
45 |
61 |
378 |
5.1 |
2 |
0 |
40 |
2 |
83.1 |
3RD QUARTER |
0 |
48 |
30 |
63 |
355 |
7.4 |
0 |
1 |
46.7 |
6 |
76.3 |
4TH QUARTER |
0 |
73 |
35 |
48 |
448 |
6.1 |
3 |
2 |
54.3 |
8 |
69.9 |
FOURTH QUARTER WITHIN 7 |
0 |
69 |
32 |
46 |
397 |
5.8 |
2 |
2 |
53.1 |
7 |
62.3 |
OVERTIME |
0 |
0 |
0 |
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0 |
--- |
0 |
0 |
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0 |
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McCown's quarterback rating declines with each quarter. These stats
do not indicate a poised leader. McCown has had ten consecutive
games to demonstrate what he can do and statistically, he doesn't
look like he's progressing at the level Green expects from a starting
quarterback.
Plus, the Gut Check figures Emmitt Smithan all-time greatacts
as a coach on the field for this offense. Unless Smith starts
criticizing the switch to King, Yours Truly would believe the
venerable RB has been able to provide helpful insight to Green
in the decision-making process. The Gut Check knows that Smith
is just a running back, but he's seen a quarterback make the progression
from raw talent to unquestioned leader in Troy Aikman. Witnessing
how this plays out in a huddle for more than a decade is valuable
insight.
That leads The Gut Check to Shaun King. In the same segment from
Chris Mortensen on ESPN, the reporter said Dennis Green always
thought highly of King. Green had the former Buccaneer rated 4th
among quarterbacks in the draft class of 1999. Here's a partial
list of players Green would determine his ratings from at the
position:
- Daunte Culpepper
- Donovan McNabb
- Tim Couch
- Akili Smith
- Cade McNown
- Matt Hasselbeck
- Aaron Brooks
Other than Hasselbeck and Brooks, the rest were first-round picks.
Considering that three of the five first-round picks aren't even
in the league right now, it shows that the evaluation process
for many teams is flawed, at best. What do Culpepper, McNabb,
Hasselbeck, and Brooks have in common? Good arm strength, decent
maneuverability in the pocket, height, and enough weight to endure
punishment. What separates Culpepper and McNabb from the other
two? Poise.
King doesn't have the height and weight combo, and his arm strength
is average, but his greatest strength has been his poise. You
don't take over the offensive leadership of a veteran playoff
team and lead them that close to a Super Bowl without having confidence
and sound decision-making. Tom Brady wasn't always as great a
player has he's considered right now, and as a rookie filling
in for an injured Bledsoe he was arguably one tuck-rule play away
from being in the same position as Shaun King.
The Gut Check isn't saying King is as good as the two-time Super
Bowl MVP, but he is making that point that small circumstances
can dynamically opposing impacts on two players careers that seemed
to begin in similar situations. It's interesting how both players
had one play in a pivotal moment of a playoff game not only change
the rules of the game, but drastically determine their careers
moving forward.
Brady was drafted later than King and started with a coaching
staff that believes in looking at players in more depth than their
combine numbers. The Gut Check can't say the same about Tony Dungy's
staff at Tampa Bayalthough Dungy has been fairly astute
in his personnel decisions with the defensive side of the ball.
Brady has also shown that he's a very driven competitor so The
Gut Check believes that if the Tuck Rule went the other way in
that Oakland game and Drew Bledsoe somehow got his job back in
New England, Brady wouldn't have gained weight like King did after
his playoff season.
But to be fair to King, Brady got the job for two reasons: his
play and Belicheck's view of Bledsoe as a player. Brady was Belicheck'
and Pioli's guy and took advantage of the opportunity. Nor was
it expected for the Patriots to be a Super Bowl contender when
Brady took over. It's hard to say whether Rich McKay or Tony Dungy
agreed on King's prospects and they knew they had a championship
contender. Plus, King wasn't in an offense that took advantage
of his talents. This was a run-first team that didn't adjust its
philosophy enough to exploit what he can do. Belicheck and Charlie
Weiss have been lauded for the last two years for doing just want
the Buccaneers and many other teams won't: match the scheme with
the players.
King reminds The Gut Check of Drew Brees. Both are poised, leaders
that operated in wide-open offenses during their college careers.
Neither was given a lot of time to develop and where hyped too
early. Brees was given David Boston and King was given Keyshawn
Johnson. Both receivers are known as highly talented, malcontents
with a history of dividing a locker room. The year after both
receivers came to these respective teams, management's view of
both quarterbacks cooled considerably. Ironically, neither team
did much to change from a run heavy offense to a more balanced
scheme although both had quarterbacks that ran no-huddle and five
receiver sets. Sound familiar?
Brees did all the extra things this season to step up his game
and prove his coaching staff wrong. It stands to reason that Shaun
King could very well have a similar opportunity. Dennis Green
did make it a point to acquire King and promise him the shot at
the starting job. But why not open the job up in training camp?
Here's where The Gut Check buys into Green's plan. Why should
Green open up the job, lose the confidence of McCowna young
player, and possibly divide the locker room with a limited evaluation
period? Instead, Green kept King as the back up and gave McCown
a full shot at the job with everyone on board and committed to
his development. Now that McCown has had enough time for Green
to make a well-informed evaluation, the coach can move to King
and give a similar evaluation period with a quarterback that has
had time to familiarize himself with the playbook.
Why did Green rate the former Buccaneer 4th among the class of
NFL rookie QBs in 1999? King first came to prominent attention
at Tulane when he led the Green Wave to a 12-0 record in 1998
and set an NCAA I-A mark with an efficiency rating of 183.3. Not
only was King's 49 total touchdowns that year (38 passing and
11 rushing) a major reason for a season-ending, number seven ranking
in the national polls, but he was also the first of a string of
NFL prospects to come out of Tulane with Patrick Ramsay and J.P.
Losman to follow. Tulane won't be mistaken for a big-time collegiate
program, but neither was Alcorn State (McNair) nor Central Florida
(Culpepper).
As a pro, King's stats were pretty good for his first two seasons
of significant time as a starter:
Shaun King |
Year |
Team |
G |
GS |
% |
Yds |
TDs |
INTs |
R-yds |
R-Att |
T-TD |
FF Pts |
1999 |
tam |
6 |
5 |
60.96% |
875 |
7 |
4 |
38 |
18 |
0 |
75.55 |
2000 |
tam |
16 |
0 |
54.44% |
2769 |
18 |
13 |
353 |
73 |
5 |
275.75 |
2001 |
tam |
6 |
0 |
67.74% |
210 |
0 |
1 |
-12 |
5 |
0 |
9.3 |
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A nearly 61% completion percentage as a rookiewithout Keyshawn
Johnson demanding the ballis impressive. So were a total of
23 combined touchdowns to 13 interceptions the following year in
a very predictable offensive system. The last two years were under
Grudenand King had to learn a new system and got very limited
time behind Brad Johnson, Rob Johnson, Joe Hamilton, and Chris Simmsthree
of them were clearly Gruden's guys.
Let's take one more look at the table where King threw more passing
scores than interceptions. Yours Truly's consciencethe guy
with 20/20 Hindsighthad a table and paragraph of commentary
about Drew Brees back in week four that applies to King respect
to TD/INT ratio:
2nd Year QBs |
Last |
First |
Rookie |
Year |
Tm |
G |
Comp |
Att |
Pct |
P Yd |
P TD |
INT |
R Yd |
R Att |
R TD |
Staubach |
Roger |
1969 |
1971 |
dal |
13 |
126 |
211 |
59.72% |
1882 |
15 |
4 |
343 |
41 |
2 |
Deberg |
Steve |
1978 |
1979 |
sfo |
16 |
347 |
578 |
60.03% |
3652 |
17 |
21 |
10 |
17 |
0 |
Fuller |
Steve |
1979 |
1980 |
kan |
14 |
193 |
320 |
60.31% |
2250 |
10 |
12 |
274 |
60 |
4 |
Montana |
Joe |
1979 |
1980 |
sfo |
15 |
176 |
273 |
64.47% |
1795 |
15 |
9 |
77 |
32 |
2 |
Simms |
Phil |
1979 |
1990 |
nyg |
14 |
184 |
311 |
59.16% |
2284 |
15 |
4 |
61 |
21 |
1 |
Eason |
Tony |
1983 |
1984 |
nwe |
16 |
259 |
431 |
60.09% |
3228 |
23 |
8 |
154 |
40 |
5 |
Marino |
Dan |
1983 |
1984 |
mia |
16 |
362 |
564 |
64.18% |
5084 |
48 |
17 |
-7 |
28 |
0 |
O'Brien |
Ken |
1984 |
1985 |
nyj |
16 |
297 |
488 |
60.86% |
3888 |
25 |
8 |
58 |
25 |
0 |
Kelly |
Jim |
1986 |
1987 |
buf |
12 |
250 |
419 |
59.67% |
2798 |
19 |
11 |
133 |
29 |
0 |
George |
Jeff |
1990 |
1991 |
clt |
16 |
292 |
485 |
60.21% |
2910 |
10 |
12 |
36 |
16 |
0 |
Favre |
Brett |
1991 |
1992 |
gnb |
15 |
302 |
471 |
64.12% |
3227 |
18 |
13 |
198 |
47 |
1 |
Johnson |
Brad |
1994 |
1996 |
min |
12 |
195 |
311 |
62.70% |
2258 |
17 |
10 |
90 |
34 |
1 |
Plummer |
Jake |
1997 |
1998 |
crd |
16 |
324 |
547 |
59.23% |
3737 |
17 |
20 |
217 |
51 |
4 |
Manning |
Peyton |
1998 |
1999 |
clt |
16 |
331 |
533 |
62.10% |
4135 |
26 |
15 |
73 |
35 |
2 |
Warner |
Kurt |
1998 |
1999 |
ram |
16 |
325 |
499 |
65.13% |
4353 |
41 |
13 |
92 |
23 |
1 |
Culpepper |
Daunte |
1999 |
2000 |
min |
16 |
297 |
474 |
62.66% |
3937 |
33 |
16 |
470 |
90 |
7 |
Garcia |
Jeff |
1999 |
2000 |
sfo |
16 |
355 |
561 |
63.28% |
4278 |
31 |
10 |
415 |
71 |
4 |
Couch |
Tim |
1999 |
2001 |
cle |
16 |
272 |
454 |
59.91% |
3040 |
17 |
21 |
128 |
38 |
0 |
Brady |
Tom |
2000 |
2001 |
nwe |
15 |
264 |
413 |
63.92% |
2843 |
18 |
12 |
43 |
36 |
0 |
Pennington |
Chad |
2000 |
2002 |
nyj |
15 |
276 |
400 |
69.00% |
3128 |
22 |
6 |
49 |
30 |
2 |
Brees |
Drew |
2001 |
2002 |
sdg |
16 |
320 |
526 |
60.84% |
3284 |
17 |
16 |
130 |
38 |
1 |
Bulger |
Marc |
2002 |
2003 |
ram |
15 |
336 |
532 |
63.16% |
3845 |
22 |
22 |
75 |
29 |
4 |
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Notice the correlation among quarterbacks that threw more touchdowns
than interceptions and were long-term starters in this league? Other
than Brees, all fifteen of the players in this table with more scores
than picks were undisputed starters for their team. Ten of those
fourteen led their team to a Super Bowl at least once. Interestingly
enough, the remaining quarterbacks with a higher pick-score ratio
wound up as backups or disappointments: Jake Plummer, Jeff George,
Tim Couch, Steve DeBerg, and Steve Fuller.
So in this respect, Shaun King falls into this categoryand
further indicates his potential remains untapped as a starting
quarterback. Yes, King did throw three picks in his debut with
the Cardinals. But Brees TD/INT ratio wasn't great last year,
either. King did throw for 343 yards and The Gut Check is pretty
sure the new Cardinals starter didn't get near the amount of practice
reps that McCown got all season long to get ready. In many leagues,
interceptions don't count so King could have some good yardage
games down the stretch.
The Gut Check on King is to do what Coach Green has done: acquire
him for cheap and give him some time in an offense that might
be more suited to his talents. Boldin, Fitzgerald, and Freddie
Jones are a big improvement from what King had in Tampa. Plus
Emmitt Smith is a terrific pass blocker. Don't go overboard on
the guy, but this is a great example of a small investment that
won't be a huge waste if it doesn't' yield dividends. At the same
time, the stats and Green's track record with quarterbacks are
promising.
Happy Thanksgiving, and good luck this week!
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